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Good thinking, thank you. Yes, maybe it is the change in his environment he needs to get used to.
Also, he is used to the smell and scent of the other hamsters because he has been living with them for a long time.
Lilly is new and she freeroams so is bound to leave her scent behind.

Something's going up Jack's nose and it may be Lilly's scent.
 
Two weeks sin’t long really, hopefully if it is Lily he’ll get more used to things & settle again soon.
 
I think it might be change too. He is also maybe missing Rodney? I know when Moo died, Pickle was really affected and stressed for quite some time. In the end I had to move his cage to a different room and he settled a bit. It didn't help that Moo's cage was directly underneath his, and he died in his nest. I think they can sense something like that. And it freaked him out maybe. On top of that they were a bit in sync those two.

After I moved his cage, he settled down a bit but not completely - so I remembered Charlie getting like this and bar chewing, after being left in a different house with other hamsters, so I wiped down the outside of Pickle's cage and that helped too and he settled after a few weeks. He was adjusting to being the only Syrian too.

Not quite the same in your case as Jack isn't the only Syrian - but there will be a lot of change of routine and scents for him. Instead of Rodney there is Lily - and yes there may be some jealousy too.

He sounds like he might be a bit stressed though. You would think he would be used to different hamsters scents though.
 
Pip went the other way when I got Raffy - he just went into a hump and disappeared for ages.
 
Interesting thought, Maz.
It would be Rory he is missing not Rodney
Rodney lived downstairs and from the time he took ill in August i separated him from the others as a precaution.

Rory lived next to Jack and Jack often looked over to Rory so he was aware of him.
Jack also looks over to Clive who is on the other side of his cage.

I could move cages around and swap Lilly with Scottie so she no longer shares a room with Jack but Scottie is doing so well in our bedroom that i'm not keen on moving him.
 
Scottie seems to be closer to you since you moved him to your bedroom. He has learned how to get you to give him sunflower seeds. :)
 
It's hard to know what it could be. Yes if Scottie is doing well where he is, best to leave him there.
 
My theory when Charlie had a major blip (and later Pickle) was that if change caused it, change could stop it. Which did seem to work both times but in hindsight it may have been scent removing that did it rather than change of location (or possibly both). Charlie went completely manic for about 2 weeks - bar chewing and the lot. I didn't move his cage to a different room, but I did do a full cage clean and cleaned his cage outside with vinegar as well. And he went back to normal. It sort of distracted/shocked him out of it. But also removed the scent of the place he'd been, with other hamsters. One had died the night before he came home and also a female had been around his cage. I'm not sure which triggered it - maybe a bit of both - but apparently the behaviour started the last night he was there, just before he came home to us. the night the other hamster died in his room.

In fact I think what I've learned from that (and with Pickle as well) is that if one hamsters is possibly dying, perhaps it's not fair on the other hamster to keep them both in the same room. On the other hand is it fair on the dying hamster to move them and have them cope with change of environment.

These things do settle down though, as Elusive said.
 
Rory didn't die in his cage though. He was pts and i always remove cages of departed hamsters immediately.
Jack didn't rearrange his furniture last night but he had been out for hours in the evening.
I'm at work tonight so will see what my OH reports back. I'll give Jack a cardboard chew box like Clive has.

I know they don't like me working overnight once or twice a week and i did rearrange my work to days only for a while but that tired me out.

Interesting thing is that the hamsters display different behaviours when i'm not here. They don't ask to come out and don't rattle the bars for attention.
They know my OH feeds and talks to them and that's it.
 
That is very clever of them to behave differently when you are not home.
 
They know you are Mum! Ours are the same if I go away. The pet sitter says she doesn’t see them at all (they hide away). But they come out when they hear my voice (and presumably smell your scent).
 
I think Jack may have snapped out of whatever strop he was in. He hasn't thrown any tantrums the last couple of nights.

See what he's like tonight.
 
Jack tonight, out exploring. The second time. He was out earlier already.

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Jack looks cosy in his tunnel. He is really enjoying free roaming.
 
I expect he'll be a bit miffed tonight because the playbox is downstairs and occupied.
 
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