Exotic Nutrition

[RainbowBrite]

I was quite surprised when this video came up for me on Youtube. It looks like Exotic Nutrition has just copied all of Niteangel's hamster furniture!

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[elusive]

They do look exactly the same, makes me wonder if they’re actually made by a third party & sold under the Nightangel or Exotic nutrition name, an exact copy would seem a bit odd otherwise but I guess it could be.

 

[RainbowBrite]

They do look exactly the same, makes me wonder if they’re actually made by a third party & sold under the Nightangel or Exotic nutrition name, an exact copy would seem a bit odd otherwise but I guess it could be.

That makes sense.

 

[Maz]

I thought it seemed to just be advertising the cage but showed Niteangel contents? Although Niteangel did copy Exotic Nutrition's silent runner design! They may well use the same companies for production though. Some Niteangel things seemed to be copies of Rodipet ones and I wondered if they used the same manufacturer.

 

[RainbowBrite]

I thought it seemed to just be advertising the cage but showed Niteangel contents? Although Niteangel did copy Exotic Nutrition's silent runner design! They may well use the same companies for production though. Some Niteangel things seemed to be copies of Rodipet ones and I wondered if they used the same manufacturer.

They are Exotic Nutrition furniture. They have a new range.

 

[Daisy]

Niteangel sources their products from factories in China. The way these factories tend to work is that they will make a generic product, and anyone can buy it for resale, so the exact same product can be sold by several different distributors. Distributors can pay extra to have their own branding or modifications added, which is what brands like Niteangel, Bucatstate and Pawhut do. So you can have the same product being sold with different branding.

This is why the Alaska and Prevue cages, for example, are so similar. They were both made in the same factory with different details. The Alaska in fact was originally made in pink or light blue with white bars but that version was never distributed in Europe. Zooplus evidently paid for theirs to be made with the maroon base and black bars.

This is probably what is happening here. Exotic Nutrition and Niteangel are probably sourcing from the same factories so the products are similar. Because the patent rests with the factory, not the brand, there is no infringement.

Even Pets at Home do something similar in that their own brand cages are manufactured by Ferplast and Savic.

 

[Socks' Mum]

That's so interesting. But a lot of cages made by respected brands are below the minimum dimensions then? But sold under a different label? The answer is to change demand by educating owners. You Tube has a good reach and people like Victoria Raechel are pioneers.

 

[Maz]

I think the Alaska always used to be a bit of a mystery! No one seemed to know where it was made, but originally it was only available from Zooplus in Germany. And most of the other cages Zooplus sold were German manufacturers like Skyline. Then the Prevue cage came out in the US which is identical but a different colour. So you think the Alaska/Prevue are made in China? Exotic nutrition also sell the Prevue under the own branding and call it the Zanzibar.

That's so interesting. But a lot of cages made by respected brands are below the minimum dimensions then? But sold under a different label? The answer is to change demand by educating owners. You Tube has a good reach and people like Victoria Raechel are pioneers.

In the Us there aren't the same minimums from charities that there are in the Uk. While most owners there say 100 x 50 (40" x 20"), something like the Prevue/Zanzibar (about 82 x 48) is often seen as reasonably acceptable there. Or a bin cage slightly under 100 x 50. The general consensus among hamster breeders etc though is that it should be at least 40" x 20" - but then they also use tanks a lot more as tanks are cheaper and they have very few barred cages big enough (none usually) so some people say a 40 gallon breeder tank is ok - that is about 90cm x 45cm,. Most say a 75 gallon tank is best (100 x 50). So the sizes are filtering through to the US but they don't have the backing of charities as yet, like they do in the Uk. And I think there are a lot more and worse awful small cages sold in the US as well. Like that plastic dinosaur cage!

 

[RainbowBrite]

So when they have all the identical Niteangel products sold under a different name, I wonder if they are the same. They do not list the wood they use and do not reply when asked so I have always thought it risky buying them.

 

[Socks' Mum]

Sizes, but also the risk of falls, needs wider education I think. Hamsters can't resist the urge to explore, but some of those tube cages look potentially injury prone.

 

[Maz]

So when they have all the identical Niteangel products sold under a different name, I wonder if they are the same. They do not list the wood they use and do not reply when asked so I have always thought it risky buying them.

I also think the quality of some is different and it may be that the manufacturers do build the same items but to a specific specification from each company. That kind of thing happens with cars.

 

[Daisy]

Yes, the Alaska was made in a Chinese factory.

I think it is possible for a factory to make the same product to different grades or quality standards, and some brands may be buying better versions of the same design (like how supermarkets might buy vegetables from the same suppliers, with the more expensive supermarkets possibly buying the better quality ones).