Bit of cleaning advice/reassurance

[Magpie]

Morning all!

As you'll have gathered from my recent posts, I'm new to owning a Hamster. We have Maggie, a female Syrian, aprox 3 months old. Apologies in advance as I will probably write an essay here.

When we got her we had not done any research (regrettably!) but within 24 hours of bringing her home I realised things have drastically moved on in the hamster world since all my friends had hamsters in the 90s... We quickly set about improving her living arrangements and she is now in a Bucatsate 2 tank. (100x50x50)

At the moment tank has paper bedding up to the depth of the front window covering around 1/3 of the tank and this graduates down through the middle third to aprox half this total depth at the other end where her wheel and large sand bath are. I'm waiting on a couple of platforms coming, but even when they arrive I think we will still have substrate in one half of the tank deeper than the other because I the tallest platform I can sit the wheel on and still be able to close the lid is 8cm.

I tend to spot clean daily as she often pees in the wheel so I clean this daily. some days its absolutely clarted and others not. She has just started fairly reliably peeing in the sand bath every night/early morning. She uses the sand a lot for digging and rolling around in, and uses the two corners in there (which are covered) for a pee most days now which is great! (sand bath is the large rectangular nitangel which has a lid on top with a hole in it which covers around 2/3 of the container. Sand used is the tiny farm bathing sand as that's what i had at the time. I do have a pack of nitangel desert sand to replace this when required. )

Question 1:

I heard that the Tiny farm bathing sand is not safe to use as its for chinchillas and is too dusty for hamsters- is this true? Also how often should I be changing sand for new clean stuff? (I sift out the pee daily if it is there)​

Maggie spends all day (as far as I can tell!) below ground in the deep end. Its rare to see her in the morning, but occasionally she will be up for a drink between 7-8am before going to ground until midnight. At times through the day/evening you can hear her tunnelling etc. We have a (very ugly and wonky) multichamber hide in the back left corner (deep end) that I made from cardboard for the time being. She doesn't seem to use this as a hide/nest/larder, but it is her door in and out of her tunnel/burrow underground nest.

Question2:

How often should I be cleaning the deeper substrate? I am thinking once a month to go through the deeper end to check for any wet areas? is this enough or too much? I don't want to disturb her nest and tunnels more than is needed, but also don't want to leave her with wet bedding under there.​

We had to move her tank to another area of the house on 07/01/26 which was 2 weeks after she went in to this tank. At this point she was only ever peeing in the wheel that I could see (every second day seemed to be a dirty wheel day) and since she was out of the tank I took the opportunity to check the deeper substrate and there was a fair amount of wet which I removed. I wonder if now that she is becoming a little better at using the sand as a toilet that the bedding will be ok undisturbed for longer?

I should also mention that there are some wood shavings in amongst there (not much but some as her original bedding) which I am trying to eliminate so that it is all just paper as I believe that is safer. I got rid of as much of this as I could during that clean and replaced with paper bedding.

Its now been 2 weeks since that first deep clean. I had no intention of going in there again to clean for at least another 2 weeks however she has just been treated for a UTI and I'm wondering if that means I should be checking that area sooner in case she has some horrible wet down there? She had visible Haematuria (wheel and sand box on morning of 19/01/26) which meant I had to dig her up in the afternoon to go to the vet (once again messing up her private space) Poor thing. Haematuria now resolved and has finished course of antibiotics.

Question 3:

Should I risk stressing her again with another earlier than ideal deep clean based on the recent UTI and chance of bloody urine that can't be seen on the surface? (Also a risk that she might have one small piece of broccoli stashed in there from this morning .)​

(I stupidly gave her a tiny piece of broccoli this morning as she was up and curious and hadn't picked up much of her mix through the night. She got a fright while eating this and pouched it. I have never given fresh in the morning before and wont again after this!)

If you've made it through all that and still have the energy and enthusiasm to give me any advice then Thank you and Bravo! I do tend to waffle on!

 

[Socks' Mum]

Essays most welcome Maggie is a very well cared for hammy. Yes, if she has a UTI she might need discreet cleaning of wet bedding more often than a young hammy would normally. You are doing an excellent job of resolving the UTI in your little patient I prefer the reptile sand as the TF sand tends to clog and go incredibly hard when damp. It can get like concrete A lot is playing by ear and trying to clean balancing the need for hygiene with not disturbing hammy too much

 

[Magpie]

Essays most welcome Maggie is a very well cared for hammy. Yes, if she has a UTI she might need discreet cleaning of wet bedding more often than a young hammy would normally. You are doing an excellent job of resolving the UTI in your little patient I prefer the reptile sand as the TF sand tends to clog and go incredibly hard when damp. It can get like concrete A lot is playing by ear and trying to clean balancing the need for hygiene with not disturbing hammy too much

Thank you- you are too kind. I am such a waffler... and an overthinker!

I really should have gone through her bed to check for any wet/bloody areas on Monday afternoon when I was in there to get her to the vet and she was safely in the small carry case, but I was very stressed and flustered and never thought about it until after I had put everything back and she was back in the tank.

As much as I don't want to disturb her for the third time in as many weeks, I feel like I really need to do this again just to check there's nothing nasty down there from Monday night when she had Haematuria. There was nothing obvious or I would have removed it, but I only went as far as needed until she poked her nose out. I think any wet would be deeper than I had gone that day. I know its not ideal for her as is stressful and invasion of her space but I guess it's one of those needs-must situations?! I worry if there is pungent UTI pee in there that it may end up the cause of another UTI which I REALLY don't want for her. (I should say the tank looks and smells fresh- but I guess it would need to be pretty bad before I started to notice anything given the depth of bedding?)

I do think the TF sand is quite dusty, but at this point I was using what I had (as it was Christmas time and I had not budgeted for spending hundreds of pounds on this wee thing...! she is clearly worth it, but it was a lot to buy in a short time) the sand came (unopened) with the tank which we sourced locally second hand. I find it easy enough to scoop the clump of wet out with a teaspoon rather than sieving and tend to manage to do this while it is still pretty fresh as it seems to be morning that she uses it. How often do you renew the sand?

 

[Socks' Mum]

Yes, it's a good idea to have a look for wet bedding. Socks wees quite a lot now in his old age and although his bedding gets very smelly underground, you can't really smell it on the surface. I clean out his nest once a week but like you hate disturbing his cosy little nest and seeing the perceptible expression of dismay when he realises his nest and store are being jumbled
I throw away the wet sand, give the bath a stir and add a bit of fresh sand every day. His loo is a little corner toilet, but he has a bigger sand bath he uses in the playpen but not every night.

 

[Maz]

I'm a bit more inclined to say leave it a bit if she's peeing in her sand bath, rather than stress her out by a lot of cleaning. It's very hard to know where to spot clean in deep bedding unless you know exactly where to look and a big clean now could stress her too much. It's stress that can cause low immune systems and lead to infections (partly - there can be other reasons as well). If you can't smell anything, don't worry about it yet. And after the first clean, she has probably used her sand bath to avoid her tunnels etc being disturbed anyway. It's great she's using her sand bath for peeing in - she's a clever girl.

Moving the cage to a different room will have stressed her a bit as well - any change of environment like that - different outlook, smells, feel etc. But sounds like she's settled now as past her uti

Over time she will get more used to being spot cleaned and you will get to know where she's doing it. I've added our cage cleaning tips guide below
I would just give her a bit of time without any disruption or changes. You can scoop wet patches of pee out of the sand maybe twice a week without disturbing anything else. If you suddenly get a strong aroma of urine from the enclosure (other than the sand) then you could investigate, but it sounds like she has already developed natural, tidy organisation and they usually pee separately from their bed and food. If she was peeing in her bed you would probably smell urine on her.

Big cleans need to be avoided though. They can really stress hamsters. As and when you need to change the substrate, partial cleans are better - eg only doing one third of the enclosure so the rest of the cage still smells familiar and the same. Then maybe 2 or 3 weeks later do a second third.

I go 2 to 3 months before even doing a third clean. If the hamster is peeing in a toilet or sand bath. It gets easier when you eventually know where she pees and if it's only in the sand bath.

So sand - I used Tiny Friends sand for years, as did many people - without issue. These days, there are concerns (which may or may not be valid) because it is sepiolite sand. Concerns that it could "set" inside when wet if the hamster ate any. As I say I have never had any issues for years with it, and German companies only sell sepiolite sand and German owners use it. However, it has gone along the grapevine as being classed as "risky" and so people are now using things like natural sand or reptisand. ie sand for reptiles - providing it is calcium free. I'll link some below - it may be cheaper than the niteangel dessert sand and last longer.

A cheap alternative is a big bag of Argos Childrens play sand - if it says "sterilised" on the bag, it can be used straight from the bag That costs about £6 and will last for many years and many hamsters! I now use the natural sand, but neither of my syrians like any sand! Although one of them uses his sand bath as a toilet. The other one is very neat and tidy and only pees in one place very low down in a corner. Well away from where he sleeps and hoards. Once they've had the disruption of a clean the first time, they are often very careful to avoid the disruption again and develop good habits! Baby hamsters tend to pee in their nests initially but develop better habits after the first clean usually and at 3 months she is no longer a baby. There is always the exception - some male hamsters can be a bit lazy! But females are usually tidier And most of my males have been very tidy and organised.

Do you have a photo of your set up? As we might be able to make some suggestions that could make life easier for you and the hamster - but it sounds like you have things sussed! There are places you can get platforms with whatever height legs you want.

The cardboard multiroom house sounds excellent, and yes, if they burrow they sometimes just use it as a kind of "porch" or entrance but they still like it to be there

Don't worry about asking questions or writing a lot - we've all been there! It's like being a new Mum sometimes! And we worry. One tip though is to avoid getting to stressed about things, because if we're stressed, the hamster picks up our stress and they get stressed. If she has pee'd somewhere you don't know, it will not cause any harm with all that bedding. Unless left for a very long time obviously.

This is the Komodo natural sand

Hamster cage cleaning

Tips on how to clean your hamster cage and avoid causing stress to your hamster. It's best to have plenty of depth of substrate and mainly spot clean your hamster cage. Avoid disturbing your hamster's nest and hoard.

www.thehamsterforum.com

 

[Magpie]

I'm a bit more inclined to say leave it a bit if she's peeing in her sand bath, rather than stress her out by a lot of cleaning. It's very hard to know where to spot clean in deep bedding unless you know exactly where to look and a big clean now could stress her too much. It's stress that can cause low immune systems and lead to infections (partly - there can be other reasons as well). If you can't smell anything, don't worry about it yet. And after the first clean, she has probably used her sand bath to avoid her tunnels etc being disturbed anyway. It's great she's using her sand bath for peeing in - she's a clever girl.

Moving the cage to a different room will have stressed her a bit as well - any change of environment like that - different outlook, smells, feel etc. But sounds like she's settled now as past her uti

Over time she will get more used to being spot cleaned and you will get to know where she's doing it. I've added our cage cleaning tips guide below
I would just give her a bit of time without any disruption or changes. You can scoop wet patches of pee out of the sand maybe twice a week without disturbing anything else. If you suddenly get a strong aroma of urine from the enclosure (other than the sand) then you could investigate, but it sounds like she has already developed natural, tidy organisation and they usually pee separately from their bed and food. If she was peeing in her bed you would probably smell urine on her.

Big cleans need to be avoided though. They can really stress hamsters. As and when you need to change the substrate, partial cleans are better - eg only doing one third of the enclosure so the rest of the cage still smells familiar and the same. Then maybe 2 or 3 weeks later do a second third.

I go 2 to 3 months before even doing a third clean. If the hamster is peeing in a toilet or sand bath. It gets easier when you eventually know where she pees and if it's only in the sand bath.

So sand - I used Tiny Friends sand for years, as did many people - without issue. These days, there are concerns (which may or may not be valid) because it is sepiolite sand. Concerns that it could "set" inside when wet if the hamster ate any. As I say I have never had any issues for years with it, and German companies only sell sepiolite sand and German owners use it. However, it has gone along the grapevine as being classed as "risky" and so people are now using things like natural sand or reptisand. ie sand for reptiles - providing it is calcium free. I'll link some below - it may be cheaper than the niteangel dessert sand and last longer.

A cheap alternative is a big bag of Argos Childrens play sand - if it says "sterilised" on the bag, it can be used straight from the bag That costs about £6 and will last for many years and many hamsters! I now use the natural sand, but neither of my syrians like any sand! Although one of them uses his sand bath as a toilet. The other one is very neat and tidy and only pees in one place very low down in a corner. Well away from where he sleeps and hoards. Once they've had the disruption of a clean the first time, they are often very careful to avoid the disruption again and develop good habits! Baby hamsters tend to pee in their nests initially but develop better habits after the first clean usually and at 3 months she is no longer a baby. There is always the exception - some male hamsters can be a bit lazy! But females are usually tidier And most of my males have been very tidy and organised.

Do you have a photo of your set up? As we might be able to make some suggestions that could make life easier for you and the hamster - but it sounds like you have things sussed! There are places you can get platforms with whatever height legs you want.

The cardboard multiroom house sounds excellent, and yes, if they burrow they sometimes just use it as a kind of "porch" or entrance but they still like it to be there

Don't worry about asking questions or writing a lot - we've all been there! It's like being a new Mum sometimes! And we worry. One tip though is to avoid getting to stressed about things, because if we're stressed, the hamster picks up our stress and they get stressed. If she has pee'd somewhere you don't know, it will not cause any harm with all that bedding. Unless left for a very long time obviously.

This is the Komodo natural sand

Hamster cage cleaning

Tips on how to clean your hamster cage and avoid causing stress to your hamster. It's best to have plenty of depth of substrate and mainly spot clean your hamster cage. Avoid disturbing your hamster's nest and hoard.

www.thehamsterforum.com

Thanks Maz

I will add some photos of the way the cage is set up via my phone once I've typed all this on the laptop. I've just got more sprays which will be ready to put in in a week- I hadn't thought she was eating them but when I looked closer i realised she has devoured them (sorghum and broom corn)

Last night she only ate 1 of the balls of corned beef plus a little of the other so she effectively only had half her last dose of antibiotics. I checked with the vet who says he feels she has had enough to cover her and no need for an additional dose tonight. If I'm still up when she gets up I'll offer her a couple of treats by hand as I normally do but won't try to stroke her or anything like that for a few days to give her a bit of peace and quiet? I've never had her out to play in the play pen yet as there has been so much change and this week has added to the chaos so think I'm better to leave that for another week. She still seems keen to interact when she gets up- coming over to the window and climbing up and having a sniff and a chat. I do feel a bit like i did when i was a first time mum! constant worry and self doubt.

I really don't want to cause her any more additional stress. Things have been less than ideal for her so far and that was my fault for not being properly prepared! Since we brought her home she has had to move from her awful tiny cage which we bought when we got her... (poorly advised!) and re-settle in to the new Bucastate which was in our bedroom for 2 weeks as it was the only reliably warm room with enough space to house it until we were able to change shelves around in the sitting room.

I was just concerned in case I was leaving a horrible mess of potential infection down there being that she had the UTI. Perhaps as you say though it would be best to give her peace and just clean 1/3 in a month or 2 as long as she continues using the sand?

I'm not really sure how much they pee? I would imagine not a great deal? There was definitely what I would call a decent amount of wet in the bedding when I cleaned this 2 weeks ago. It was not smelly though. I wonder if this may be due to it not all being paper bedding at that stage though? Not sure if the shavings are a factor as less absorbent than paper, or just because she had not established her new bathroom corner before that? I know shavings are not a safe substrate but without fully emptying the tank I am stuck with a small amount of it in there for now. I removed a fair bit when I was in there (poly bag full) as I wanted to replace as much as possible to eliminate it. This was replaced with safe paper bedding and as time goes on will eventually be all paper. There are still shavings under a layer of paper in the end where she doesn't burrow. I plan to remove this when I add in my new platforms, keeping the used clean top layer of paper aside and replacing it back on top.

When I say I spot clean daily, all I am doing is sweeping up any empty seed husks, removing pee clumps from the sand and wiping down her wheel as some days it is full of pee! Wheel has been cleaner more recently and I wonder if this is because she is using the sand. There's only ever one clump of wet in the sand though- so not sure if this is all there is or if this is just some of it? perhaps even this is too much cleaning? I do this while she is safely tucked up in her burrow.

I remove the wet from the sand daily as although she pees in the corners of this, she also digs and rolls and has a proper sandbath in there too several times a night while that I've seen before I go to bed. I have put her dish of beech chips in one end as I'm struggling for other space at the moment due to lack of platforms. I cant afford to just rush out and buy everything at once so am chipping away making improvements and very open to suggestions! I find clutter hard to do. I know her cage is not cluttered enough but again its a work in progress. I worry if I don't empty the clumps of pee that she will roll in them the next night? should I be leaving the clumps in there for longer? or should I look to moving the sandbath and getting a smaller corner unit to put in the corner for her just to use as a toilet? I don't want to start moving things around too much if it will upset her again. I am concerned that the UTI was a result of stress from moving rooms and the deep clean.

The sand bath is WAY bigger than I realised when I ordered it and other than digging in the beech chips she spends all the time in the covered area. Its not on a platform just now as it is not on top of deep bedding. I have some Tiny friends sand left and the bag of Nitangel desert sand to get through but thank you for the links and info re sand- I will definitely use these when I need to source more. I was just worried in case I was using unsafe sand. I do scatter some food in her beech chips so there is the possibility that she might ingest some sand from time to time- if this is a risk then I Can move the dish of beech chips or change the sand ASAP. How often would you say I should change the sand in there considering she is so busy in there vs stress of removing her scent from there.

I have a new platform coming to sit the wheel on as the one its on now was second hand and came with the cage and is missing legs! the one I'm using at the moment is a nitangel platform but just has 4 dowels on the bottom and is not totally level so the wheel is a little noisy and can move around a little some nights. The new paltform is only 8cm tall though as otherwise the wheel wont fit in the tank height-wise (using a 10" trixie just now but have a 12" PAH silent wheel for once new platform is here as I think this will be a better size for her long term.) I don't know how could fit her wheel in the cage with 6" of bedding under it as the lid wouldn't close!

I also have legs coming for the multichamber hide as at the moment this is just sitting on top of the deep bedding. There is no weight in it as its made of cardboard slotted together and has nothing sat on top. This is a waste of usable space though so will be great once legs are here. (I do have a wooden multichamber Hide which arrived more recently which I plan to swap over to as it should be stronger for putting things on top of.

Even I've lost track of what I'm talking about now I've gone on so long... anything to avoid the dishes.

 

[Magpie]

This is what we have for now.

 

[Maz]

That looks really nice as it is If you do plan to swap the cardboard multiroom house for a wood one, I would do a direct swap so it's in exactly the same place, so she doesn't get too upset at the change.

Don't worry, many of us have been there. Our first hamster also had a totally unsuitable first cage, developed cage rage within two weeks and was clearly desperate to escape, and was upgraded to a larger one - except I did it cold turkey and stressed him out completely. Thankfully he forgave us and all settled down eventually.

Don't worry about still having some shavings mixed in - they'll gradually get reduced.

Some people use a little sieve to remove any clumps of pee in the sand but I wouldn't worry about her rolling in it. I'm sure she's not that daft! If she did it wouldn't do a lot of harm anyway.

The trixie wheel looks fine (they are 28cm diameter which is big enough). So no real need to replace it unless you want to and have already bought another one.

Can't quite work out the height issue for a wheel though. I think the Bucatstate is 50cm tall. Maybe it's less tall internally? Say 48cm - less 35cm for height of 30cm wheel and stand say - should give about 12cm for platform height with 1cm clearance. But maybe the internal height is less than that? If the height is to the ground and includes the legs?

Anyway she has a lovely set up there and it looks fine to me. You could maybe add another small hide to the front left corner - eg a coconut hut or carrot cottage

 

[Magpie]

Thank you- I am pleased with it so far and she seems happy. Its a massive improvement from where we started and she has certainly taken to burrowing. I think I just maybe compare it to others I've seen online who have clearly been doing it and collecting things for far longer than I have and worry its just not quite enough yet!

When I think back to friends hamsters when we were kids they must have been so stressed all the time with nowhere to hide or burrow. I wish the shavings weren't in there but they are minimal and like you say will be reduced over time until all gone.

I'll try and cut back on the pee removal from the sand for now then. That might help encourage her to keep using it and truly establish it as a bathroom. If I don't clear them out daily do they still stay as clumps though? or would it all just get mixed through and then just need to change the sand over for fresh when it starts to smell a little?

I do actually have a tall corner platform to put in the top front left corner so I can put another hide in there- unfortunately it needs a bit of DIY from my husband before I can put it in as one of the 3 legs was poor quality and came out of the housing once screwed into the platform... was not a big brand buy! I do need to get another hide though- was thinking about a coconut one but find buying online quite hard as things always seen to be much bigger or smaller than I imagine when I buy them. Any suggestions as to suitable sized ones would be most welcome!

She has a carrot cottage in the back corner beside the wheel and LOVES this. Spends lots of time in it and there's not much thatch left on the roof now. If/when I switch out the multichamber hide when the stilts arrive, I do plan to put it in the exact same place as my home made one- it's roughly the same size just doesn't have a hole in the roof that's the only con. I wont change the multichamber over until I'm next deep cleaning that area so that I can safely put the stilts on the base.

We already got the new wheel... because the trixie was disturbing my husband at night while she was in our room (not an issue now!) then I realised the reason for the noise was actually the platform not being 100% level. oops! a bit of a pointless buy. The space inside the tank is less than the stated dimentions as these include the feet and outer frame. Its not a massive difference but enough. I measured the inside space and worked out the max platform that the larger PAH wheel will fit on would be 8cm. I think this will still allow for a bit more depth in that end than is there just now but I find working these things out in my head very difficult so until its here and I actually put it in I cant be 100% sure.

Just opened up my mail from today and have a new bundle of Pagmia sprays (now in the freezer) which are much bigger and more than I expected, also a lotus root which I hope she will find find if I sprinkle her food into from time to time. Do you change up or rotate chews/gnaws regularly to keep interest/variety or is this a bit of a stressor for them too?

 

[Maz]

I'm interested as to which 12" PAH wheel it is I didn't know they did a 12" one. And thank you for explaining the internal height difference in the Bucatstate - worth remembering for others.

I usually get the Happy Pet coconut huts for Syrians - they're just the right size and the hole is big enough.

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Just google Happy Pet coconut hut and you'll find a few sellers. It comes in a cardboard box and mine have always been great.

Pee in sand just stays where it is but just sieve/remove it when you feel necessary. It's not a big disruption.

In terms of changing things for boredom - not really - hamsters like things to stay the same for familiarity and stability. Adding the odd new item or spray is usually accepted well, but they don't like things being taken away or moved around

 

[Magpie]

Thanks so much! Would you put that on a platform? or do you just pop it on top of the bedding? would it maybe roll off a platform?

I think the internal height of the Bucatstate 2 (that we have anyway) is more like 45cm. (that's just measuring the outside perspex so take with a pinch of salt.)

PAH wheel we got is the 'silent adjustable' wheel in size Large and this is 30cm (12") in diameter. Its a lovely runner and very very quiet (as long as its on a level base!)

That's good to know about the gnaws and things though. For some reason I assumed they would like a change from time to time to keep them interested/reduce boredom. Should I have separate things in that case to use in playpen or for out of cage time so that all her things are kept 'safe and accounted for' in her tank?

You have the patience of a saint by the way- 3 million questions!

 

[Maz]

I haven't seen that wheel before - it looks nice And yes additional chews tend to go down well. Favourites tend to be the whimzee toothbrush chews and you can stick sunflower seeds in the bristles and they enjoy getting those out. Or they just enjoy them anyway even without the sunflower seeds Linked below. One of my favourite items as well is the hyacinth ball from this trio of balls - you can stick pumpkin seeds under the folds and they have to work to get those out a bit and seem to really enjoy it. The wicker ball I only use out of the cage in the playpen as it can be a bit spiky. The seagrass one you could use or unravel to use as safe string for attaching things - but that's more for cages than solid enclosures.

Hamster Safe Whimzees

Whimzees are hamster safe dog chews that are great for helping hamsters to keep their teeth worn down.

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Rosewood trio of balls

 

[Magpie]

Like I say- I have issues with judging size and scale. I actually doubted whether this wheel was big enough. I didn’t think it was as big as the trixie wheel when I picked it up in the shop. Turns out it’s bigger.

She has a croc whimzee in there now and she loves it. I have a toothbrush one ordered for when this one is all gone.

I have a little wicker ball like the rosewood one that I would stud with pieces of her mix every night (pre UTI drama) she seems to like working all the bits out. I’ve not been doing it while I’ve been trying to get meds into her but I’ll keep an eye out for it becoming sharp in any areas and add the rosewood trio to my save for later pile.

honestly obsessed with this wee girl.

 

[Maz]

Aw she's very lucky you're making her life and enclosure so special. I bet she's very sweet and your bond will keep growing

 

[Maz]

Is this the wheel? If so it looks like a good buy at £15 Silent and 30cm (and a smaller version as well). Maybe you can give us an update on it once it's being used I'm going to add it to our wheels thread anyway!

Pets at Home silent 30cm wheel

 

[Magpie]

Yes, that’s the one. It’s lovey and big and runs very smooth and quiet (when spinning by hand at least.) thought it was a bit of a bargain too at the price.

I’ll update with thoughts once it’s in use.

 

[Maz]

That is really good news! Some wheels are ridiculously expensive now! I've added it to our wheels list. The test might be longevity - ie how long it lasts - fingers crossed!

 

[Magpie]

Yeah- I had my eye on the nitangel and bucatstate ones but the cost difference is massive! May end up a ‘buy cheap buy twice’ scenario but time will tell

 

[Socks' Mum]

Is this the wheel? If so it looks like a good buy at £15 Silent and 30cm (and a smaller version as well). Maybe you can give us an update on it once it's being used I'm going to add it to our wheels thread anyway!

Pets at Home silent 30cm wheel

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It looks great

 

[Maz]

That is really good news! Some wheels are ridiculously expensive now! I've added it to our wheels list. The test might be longevity - ie how long it lasts - fingers crossed!

The Niteangel wheels are indeed very expensive! Especially in the Uk with import duty. It doesn't mean they would last any longer though necessarily! They could still crack. I think the most I spent on a wheel was £45 a few years ago and I thought that was ridiculously expensive and some cost even more than that now! The silent runner wheels are still good value at about £25 for a silent wheel (the orange one with holes in) and they seem to last forever. Unless you get the bearings wet but even then the bearings are replaceable. I had one for years with no issues. However they seem very hard to find in the Uk these days. And yours looks like a great wheel at a sensible price!