Advise for a new cage
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Finally i got mine crafted now! Waiting for the new cage coming!. I got a question about varnish or coating paint, a lot of you guys using plastikote, however i cant found any in here for wood. I just want to know the requirements, I found a Milan Acqua Stain coating which is non toxic, but still have low-VOCs inside. Is it safe to use it for coating wooden things such as multi chamber or wheels? Or should i go for food grade one? Someone said food grade doesn't hold longer when in contact with water(pee).
Where did you find out that Milan Acqua Stain was non-toxic? I can only find that it doesn't contain lead or mercury. Also I'm not sure if it's a sealant or just a wood stain.
A food-grade wood oil meant for chopping boards etc should be fine with moisture.
A food-grade wood oil meant for chopping boards etc should be fine with moisture.
Im attach a picture with my language (Bahasa Indonesia). And all the seller in here said it is non toxic. Im still asking them about the pet safety standart.
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I’m a bit cautious with what to paint wood with. Can you find any children’s toy-safe paint? That would be wipeable and non toxic.
I think there are other clear varnishes (eg a German one) which are water based and say pet safe - that could be something to look for as well. Something that says water based, no odour and pet-safe.
Great news you’ve made an enclosure! That was quick!
I think there are other clear varnishes (eg a German one) which are water based and say pet safe - that could be something to look for as well. Something that says water based, no odour and pet-safe.
Great news you’ve made an enclosure! That was quick!
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I just looked up the data safety sheet for Bioduco Chalk paint. It sounds like it's ok. It's waterbased. All these data sheets warn against hazards and this one warns about effects of ingestion, but I suspect that means if the paint is drunk rather than if it's dried on and chewed. Even so, it wouldn't be good if the wood was chewed if painted perhaps. Plastikote has a similar warning about ingestion but not quite such a strong warning. Are there any children's paints available?
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There's this children's toy paint available in India but I can't find a safety data sheet for it to say if it's safe to chew.
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Another option, to minimise the need for painting, and which some people do with wood cages, is to tile the base with ceramic tiles. This makes it wipe clean on the base and prevents the base being chewed. Then you'd only need to "waterproof" may 12" round the sides of the wood to avoid pee staining a bit further up in case they pee in a corner underground eg. So that would minimise the amount of paint needed and mainly in the areas that are less likely to be chewed (eg flat sides). Corners could still be chewed at so maybe those could be reinforced with metal brackets (which some people do after a hamster has tried to chew out at a corner) - as that would mean there'd be no paint in the corners and only on the flat sides.
thanks before Maz, i already made a cage with acrylics combined with metal for the frame.
I want to use woods as a wheel, platforms and multichambers. Since those things mostly using plywood as the basic. For the famous brands such as Bucatstate, NA, Tafit and etc only have 10'2" for the biggest one. Some seller sell 11" wheel, but the seller account kinda suspicious and not trustworthy. Wanted to make wheels out of solid woods and put cork sheets in running track, like Getzoo have.
I think this one's probably okay ad the data sheet doesn't name any specific toxins. It says gastrointestinal disturbances are possible are drinking it because even non-toxic liquid paint isn't really easy on the stomach (as I discovered when I was 2 years old
)But the dried paint should be fine
Thanks a lot daisy, glad this forum always open hands and provide useful informations.I think this one's probably okay ad the data sheet doesn't name any specific toxins. It says gastrointestinal disturbances are possible are drinking it because even non-toxic liquid paint isn't really easy on the stomach (as I discovered when I was 2 years old
But the dried paint should be fine
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Sorry I forgot which beddings you can get now. I think the Vitakraft didn't say what wood it contained didn't it? When you say 5" do you mean 5" of paper plus more inches of Chipsi? Mixing them together can work well If you feel wood bedding is better in the tropical climate then can you get aspen to mix with the chipsi? Or use all Chipsi? Or is that too expensive to use all Chipsi?
If you feel wood bedding is better in the tropical climate then can you get aspen to mix with the chipsi? Or use all Chipsi? Or is that too expensive to use all Chipsi?the wood shavings that available in here are Chipsi, German Horse, Vitakraft and Jolly White Poplar. Yes, they still not reply my messages yet about the wood contained in thereSorry I forgot which beddings you can get now. I think the Vitakraft didn't say what wood it contained didn't it? When you say 5" do you mean 5" of paper plus more inches of Chipsi? Mixing them together can work well
. For Aspen shavings its really hard to get that one and also the price is too much for me. The brands that selling Aspen Shavings are Niteangel and Zoomed reptile aspen. For Chipsi alone, the price still below Vitakraft, i can get the bedding made from Chipsi. But im concern about the sharp pieces in Chipsi, do Chipsi really have a lot sharp piece of wood? If not maybe i can get that one