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Yorkshire Pudding diary

Exactly. I probably ate too much yorkshire pudding ha ha. I definitely want to try the Chef Jack Ovens recipe and find a tin that isn't a non stick one. If that makes sense (if it's metal the oven temperature doesn't matter).
 
So I’ve decided not to use the same tin any more. It’s a non stick one and described as being ovenproof up to 220 conventional/200 fan. My last recipe needed to be at 210 fan and I was slightly uncomfortable about hearing the tin hotter than it’s ovenproof rating and do think it gave off a few fumes.

Some non stick ones are ovenproof up to 230 conventional/210 fan but I have one recipe that needs 240/220.

I found some 6 hole stainless steel muffin tins on Amazon by some unknown make - they had good reviews so I got them.

And will be using those for the rest of the recipes but still the same oven. I don’t think it will make a lot of difference as lots of people use non stick oven tins for Yorkshire pudding. And when I made the Elaine Lemm recipe I had half in the mini oven in the non stick tin and half in my main oven in an enamelled metal pie dish and both came out exactly the same.

But I’ll stick to the mini oven for comparison anyway.

Lakeland and le creuset both make a non stick muffin tin/Yorkshire pudding tin that is ovenproof at 240/220. I sent for the Lakeland one which wasn’t expensive but that will only fit in the main oven. The ke creuset one was expensive.

I also saw some cast iron muffin tins which would be ideal but they were ridiculously expensive!

So I’ll be using the 6 hole stainless steel one now in the mini oven - hope they don’t stick!

I'm trying Chef Jack Ovens recipe today. He uses 3 eggs (doesn't say what size - I've used large ones), less flour (60 grams) and 150ml of skimmed milk. I don't have skimmed milk. I was going to use half semi skimmed and half water, but noticed our milk has gone out of date. So I made up a pint of marvel - which is skimmed milk. He again mixes the eggs and milk first and adds the flour and salt afterwards. He says you can either use it straight away or put it in the fridge - preferably overnight as it makes the batter a lot better.

I read on another food blog that yorkshire puddings have slightly less rise, if batter is refrigerated, than if left to stand at room temperature, so I'm sticking with an hour at room temperature as for the other recipes. Traditionally batter wasn't refrigerated as originally people didn't have fridges. I'm guessing this is in some recipes because some countries are hotter and leaving eggs at room temperature for a long period could mean they go off.

Anyway. The batter is currently resting. He says heat the fat in the yorkshire pudding tin at 240 conventional (220 fan) for 10 minutes and also cook at that temperature. (Elaine Lemm says don't heat it above 230/215 or the fat could burn). But the Yorkshire Pudd company wops their oven up even higher than 240 to heat the fat, so I'll stick with 240 for 10 minutes. Results later.

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You’re becoming a Yorkshire pudding expert…do they have exams for this 🤔😅I’ll be interested to see if your puddings stick in those tins. Non stick pans are also supposed to disrupt hormones due to the chemicals used, so stainless steel should be a healthier option.
 
Sorry Lovelyness - I just added more to that last post - before you finished looking!
 
You’re becoming a Yorkshire pudding expert…do they have exams for this 🤔😅I’ll be interested to see if your puddings stick in those tins. Non stick pans are also supposed to disrupt hormones due to the chemicals used, so stainless steel should be a healthier option.
See above for today's recipe! I've not been keen on non stick stuff for years - mainly because bits used to flake off, so don't use non stick pans or baking tins mostly. But I have a non stick frying pan and a non stick loaf and bun tin I've used occasionally. They seem ok but I think at higher temperatures it's maybe not the best thing. There are apparently a lot of different types of non stick now and some better than others. I'll probably be using the non stick lakeland one in the main oven in future as it has 12 holes. When I've decided on a favourite recipe! Although to be honest I was so happy with Elaine Lemm's recipe I have less motivation to try other recipes!
 
Apparently it's the non stick that has PFOA in that disrupts endocrine chemicals - but most of them I've seen say "PDOA free". It might be a particular brand of non stick that's an issue. The lakeland one I bought says PFOA free and something else free. But there is an issue of heating non stick affecting some pets I believe - birds? If it's too hot.
 
I did it again sorry! Edited my post!
 
Apparently it's the non stick that has PFOA in that disrupts endocrine chemicals - but most of them I've seen say "PDOA free". It might be a particular brand of non stick that's an issue.
Maybe manufacturers are just becoming more aware of it and responding to market forces…which is a good thing! I probably need to update my saucepans!
 
I have stainless steel saucepans :) Just the frying pan is non stick - for when doing fried eggs. I'm hopeless at fried eggs otherwise! So it doesn't get used often.

This all started because I needed a new muffin tin to fit inside the mini oven! Then decided to try making yorkshire puddings in it - with trepidation!
 
Wow - I didn't realise Elaine Lemm was a trained chef - she trained in France and under Raymond Blanc at the Manoir de Quatre Saisons. And writes for various places including the BBC.

 
Wow, my household would like me to try some of these Yorkshire recipes! They would love them more often for sure.
 
Hmm. Well these rose ok and came out ok but not nearly as nice as the Elaine Lemm ones. They are incredibly light and airy - almost too much. No real flavour - and I think 240/220 was too hot as they were very slightly uncooked in the middle and starting to burn in the outside. So I gave them the full 18 minutes then took them out as they would have burned otherwise.

Can’t say we enjoyed them. They look ok but don’t taste of anything much and a bit eggy in the middle. More omeletty again. And so light it’s like not even getting a mouthful.

A couple did stick to the tin a bit so they rose a bit oddly - one sude rise and the other side was a bit stuck to the tin - a bit like flowers turning to face a sunny window :)

So not sure the tin will be good either unless it gets well seasoned with time.

Most other recipes say 230/215 and there is a choice of non stick tins at that temperature (but not many).

We didnt like these - they weren’t really Yorkshire puddings as such.

The first photo shows them rising at one side more than the other. The last one shows them slightly eggy and uncooked in the middle.

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Wow, my household would like me to try some of these Yorkshire recipes! They would love them more often for sure.
Don’t try today’s one 🤣
 
Wow, my household would like me to try some of these Yorkshire recipes! They would love them more often for sure.
Try the Elaine Lemm one - that’s our favourite so far and it’s really easy.
 
That’s a shame they didn’t really have flavour they look yummy. Will pass on those then and try the other Elaine Lemm ones first 👍 (Lol, think I was typing at the same time 😆)
 
Yes I'm not sure I'm going to bother with any other recipes - those Elaine Lemm ones were just perfect and so easy to remember how to make - equal measures of egg, milk and flour (as measured in a measuring jug). Measure eggs first (eg 200ml) then match that with milk and flour. I used semi skimmed milk. I did strain it through a sieve though like it says in her book. To get lumps out. If you sieve the flour first (which I didn't!) that might not be necessary. Then it's 230 conventional/210 fan for 20 to 25 mins. Same for heating the fat.

So, so far I don't think it's about oven temperatures particularly or tins particularly, but about letting the mix stand for about an hour and the right recipe combination. Having the fat hot as well but 210 fan is fine for that.

And I think I prefer non stick tins as well :ROFLMAO: It's just hard finding one small enough to fit in the mini oven that's ovenproof at 230 degrees.
 
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I just spotted this in the forum while looking for something else…how are the Yorkshire puddings? I miss the daily pudding updates lol 😂
 
I made them again yesterday actually :) I stuck with the Elaine Lemm recipe. I had sent for three different yorkshire pudding tins as my current bun tin was only oven safe up to 200 fan. The lakeland one is good - muffin type tin but slightly larger cups. Only thing is it won't fit in the mini oven. The other tin is one of the four large hole yorkshire tins. So I did the lakeland one in the main oven and the shallow four cup one in the mini oven. The shallow 4 cup tin didn't work too well and while the texture was just right, they were a bit low. The ones in the muffin tin were great. The whole lot were eaten. Two each with the meal and the rest disappeared as snacks as the evening went on.

This time I was a bit pushed for time so the batter only rested for 45 minutes (as opposed to an hour and a half last time). They were just as good but I think could have been that bit better with longer resting time.
 
Doing Yorkshire puddings again today. Just made the batter and am leaving it standing all afternoon. However I wasn’t concentrating and forgot to whisk the eggs and milk first and then sieve the flour in. I just bunged them all in the bowl together and whisked. Hopefully they will come out ok anyway with the whisking and long standing time 😊
 
My mother tried making them a few times. They flopped, but could be turned over and presented upside down with the help of a splash of gravy 😄
 
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