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Loki is sick???

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Hello,

I am concerned about my Syrian hamster, Loki.

I came home to him not buried in his fluff, not moving much, and just acting weird.

He’s always buried in his fluff so i’m definitely worried. He moved around some after I opened his cage, but then he went back to laying out in the open.

I can try to see if the 24 hour vet will see him, but not sure if they take credit cards.
 
Hello. I'm really sorry to hear Loki doesn't seem well. It's possible he may have had a stroke or is unwell in some other way - infection possibly. Is the temperature warm enough in the room? I hope you manage to get an urgent appointment with the vet - I am sure they will work something out with you about payment if you explain the situation.

Do let us know how you get on. Meanwhile have you tried offering him any water on a teaspoon maybe to see if he takes some? How does he react if you stroke him or try to hold him?

Do please let us know how you get on.
 
Really sorry to hear Loki is unwell.
It’s hard to say what might be wrong with him but as Maz said a stroke is one possibility especially if it’s happened suddenly, if it is that they can recover to some extent.
Just wondering if he’s warm enough too as getting cold can cause problems like this.
Hope you can get Loki to the vet & he’ll be ok.
 
He’s a lot better these last few days.

I cleaned out his fluff some where he likes to bury himself, because I found out his water bottle was leaking into it.

Got a new water bottle ordered now (should be here today) but he’s still not as active. He is 2 years old so I think he’s winding down some.
 
I am so pleased to hear Loki has improved. When you say fluff, do you mean fluffy bedding? I just wanted to double check because it is sold for hamsters but it dangerous for them as they can get it wrapped around their limbs. Apologies if you did not mean this.
 
Good he has improved a bit. Yes it's difficult as two is getting quite old for a hamster and they do slow down and things start to not work as well. When ours get to that age I tend to turn the cage into a sort of retirement bungalow, so they can't fall and hurt themselves - and remove levels and have everything at ground level. To compensate for that I add extra things at ground level - some items from the shelves and some additional tunnels etc. A cork log is nice for that because it's a little bit of low climbing :-) In case they feel like climbing over it. Or they can just run through it as a tunnel.

They can start to fail a bit and then suddenly come round and be active again. But I'm glad to hear he's improved. If you do use fluffy stuff for nesting, it can be dangerous as Rainbow said. The best thing for a nest really is strips of plain white toilet paper. They really like that for their nest as they can have normal behaviours - they pouch the strips and take them to the house and actually build a nest out of them.
 
I am so pleased to hear Loki has improved. When you say fluff, do you mean fluffy bedding? I just wanted to double check because it is sold for hamsters but it dangerous for them as they can get it wrapped around their limbs. Apologies if you did not mean this.
Yes, fluffy bedding!! sorry, forgot the word for it! I use carefresh bedding for him.
 
Good he has improved a bit. Yes it's difficult as two is getting quite old for a hamster and they do slow down and things start to not work as well. When ours get to that age I tend to turn the cage into a sort of retirement bungalow, so they can't fall and hurt themselves - and remove levels and have everything at ground level. To compensate for that I add extra things at ground level - some items from the shelves and some additional tunnels etc. A cork log is nice for that because it's a little bit of low climbing :) In case they feel like climbing over it. Or they can just run through it as a tunnel.

They can start to fail a bit and then suddenly come round and be active again. But I'm glad to hear he's improved. If you do use fluffy stuff for nesting, it can be dangerous as Rainbow said. The best thing for a nest really is strips of plain white toilet paper. They really like that for their nest as they can have normal behaviours - they pouch the strips and take them to the house and actually build a nest out of them.
Yeah all he really does is sleep now. He doesn’t run around like he used to, play like he used to on his wheel. Makes me sad
 
Carefresh is absolutely fine. But fluffy bedding (like synthetic fluff nesting material) is the thing that's unsafe.

It is sad when they start slowing down. All you can do is keep him comfortable and given him treats he enjoys. Sometimes they like a bit of baby food or porridge as a special treat. I've found they can still be quite fast on flat surfaces even if they're a bit slow generally but it depends how he is.
 
An update on Loki!

He’s doing a lot better, but he’s having problems walking to his water and food. Should I take him to the vet? He’s still eating, but i’m thinking he may have some arthritis.
 
One of my Syrians had arthritis when he got old and a daily dose of Metacam worked wonders for him.

It can also help to put a boredom breaker mat down which makes it easier to walk on the substrate.

So glad to hear that Loki is doing better and thank you for the update.
 
Hi there - glad he is doing a lot better. I think with this ageing it's a case of adjusting things so they can manage better. If you move his food bowl near to his house he won't need to walk so far to it. The same with his water bottle - have it much closer. In some ways there isn't much a vet can do when they get old like this, but one thing they can do is prescribe pain relief in the form of Metacam (also called Loxicam). It helps to keep them comfortable in their old age as they can't tell us what hurts. The vet usually needs to see the hamster to prescribe it, but some hamsters will prescribe it after a phone consultation if you explain the situation.
 
Thank you both!!

My dog is actually on Metacam so I know what that is. I’m thinking I may get an appointment with his vet.
 
What is his cage like? When they get older and less mobile, it's an idea to remove any levels in the cage so they can't climb and fall and hurt themselves. Instead you can add a few extra enrichment things at floor level - any toys that were on a shelf eg for familiarity. I sometimes just move the shelf right up to the roof, rather than take it out completely. That way they still have the feeling of sitting "under" a shelf.
 
Thank you both!!

My dog is actually on Metacam so I know what that is. I’m thinking I may get an appointment with his vet.
It is actually dog metacam that they use for hamsters. But a vet needs to work the dose out as it doesn't just go on weight - they have to factor in a hamster's metabolism. If you tell your vet you already have some dog metacam and could you give some to your hamster, they might say sure and just tell you the dose. You need a different syringe though - a 1ml syringe - it fits inside the metacam syringe so you can draw the metacam into the 1ml syringe from that (they are very small doses for Syrian hamsters.
 
What is his cage like? When they get older and less mobile, it's an idea to remove any levels in the cage so they can't climb and fall and hurt themselves. Instead you can add a few extra enrichment things at floor level - any toys that were on a shelf eg for familiarity. I sometimes just move the shelf right up to the roof, rather than take it out completely. That way they still have the feeling of sitting "under" a shelf.
He does have a shelf, so I think I may bury it more so he doesn’t have to climb as far. I can bury it more if need be. He hates his house (even though he has one) he would rather be buried in the carefresh bedding!
 
Have you tried giving him a shoebox house? :-) If the house is large and dark inside they nearly always move in because they like nesting in a dark area. You just cut the base out of a cardboard shoe box and keep the lid as a lift off roof (so you can check inside) Then cut a hole for a door I cut an arch door for older hamsters in case they struggling lifting their legs to climb through a hole). If you make the door at the far end of one of the long sides of the box, then the other end is dark (light doesn't go round corners). They alwasy nest at the dark end. And it's big enough you can put a corner litter tray inside at the door end at the back. All my syrians have done this - nested at the dark end and they create an ensuite toilet separate from the nest and use a litter tray if you put one in. It makes life easier as then you just lift the roof off to empty the litter tray once or twice a week and the rest of the cage stays clean and dry.

It might be easier if he's getting older as it would mean less clean outs needed and his nest would stay in tact. They tend to build a really big cosy nest in a large house. It might be easier for the walking if he's struggling with that a bit. It means you can keep the substrate firmly pressed down for a level surface to walk on and a level route into his house. If you have a bendy stick bridge to put over the door, that makes it even better as it's even darker inside then and a tunnel entrance tempts them to move in. Plus it doubles up as a ramp onto the house roof, so it's like a very low shelf.

I just put a big pile of toilet paper strips next to the house (not inside it) and they take some and build a nest inside. If you put a smelly treat inside the house (like cucumber or cheese) it's likely to tempt him in. Once they find a large dark space that mimics a burrow they prefer it I think :-)

Just a thought and it might make his life nicer and easier in his old age and less cleanouts to bother him.
 
Have you tried giving him a shoebox house? :) If the house is large and dark inside they nearly always move in because they like nesting in a dark area. You just cut the base out of a cardboard shoe box and keep the lid as a lift off roof (so you can check inside) Then cut a hole for a door I cut an arch door for older hamsters in case they struggling lifting their legs to climb through a hole). If you make the door at the far end of one of the long sides of the box, then the other end is dark (light doesn't go round corners). They alwasy nest at the dark end. And it's big enough you can put a corner litter tray inside at the door end at the back. All my syrians have done this - nested at the dark end and they create an ensuite toilet separate from the nest and use a litter tray if you put one in. It makes life easier as then you just lift the roof off to empty the litter tray once or twice a week and the rest of the cage stays clean and dry.

It might be easier if he's getting older as it would mean less clean outs needed and his nest would stay in tact. They tend to build a really big cosy nest in a large house. It might be easier for the walking if he's struggling with that a bit. It means you can keep the substrate firmly pressed down for a level surface to walk on and a level route into his house. If you have a bendy stick bridge to put over the door, that makes it even better as it's even darker inside then and a tunnel entrance tempts them to move in. Plus it doubles up as a ramp onto the house roof, so it's like a very low shelf.

I just put a big pile of toilet paper strips next to the house (not inside it) and they take some and build a nest inside. If you put a smelly treat inside the house (like cucumber or cheese) it's likely to tempt him in. Once they find a large dark space that mimics a burrow they prefer it I think :)

Just a thought and it might make his life nicer and easier in his old age and less cleanouts to bother him.
oh my gosh I will definitely try that!! thank you so much!
 
These are the litter trays I get - the size is just right for a syrian and it fits in the corner of a house and the high back keeps the pee inside. I just put chinchilla bathing sand in it (needs to be sand, not "dust") - the type you use in a sand bath. The sand soaks up the pee. I bet he'd use it!

Be careful if getting a corner litter tray as some of them are HUGE! For rabbits etc. This one is the right dimensions.

 
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You can actually get all kinds of really nice wood multiroom houses that are dark inside and have a room for a litter tray, but they can be quite expensive and as he's getting on a bit, a shoebox house is a cheap option. Also the wood ones are heavy and need legs or stilts to support them whereas cardboard is light.
 
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