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Hello everyone, I need some advice. I adopted a Dwarf Russian Hamster over a month ago. He is now about 6 months old and his name is Albert. To begin with Albert used one corner of his cage to pee but has now decided to stop doing that. Albert likes to dig his own burrow system bed, food storage and toilet. Albert gets very angry if go anywhere near his burrow system so I can't clean his toilet. To stop Albert getting stressed and angry I've only been cleaning out his wee/toilet once a week. I have to put Albert in his pet carrier to complete this task which Albert is happy with. Albert's pee/toilet doesn't smell. But I'm worried Albert might become ill because I'm only cleaning out his pee/toilet once a week.
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Hello. I wouldnt have thought you would need to clean Alberts toilet area more then once a week. I know some hamsters do get distressed at having their cage tidied and putting them in a play pen can be helpful as they can have some fun while their cage is being tidied.

Would you like to post a picture of Alberts cage so members can help?
 
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This will help you with cleaning tips.
 
Hello Jayne. I wouldnt have thought you would need to clean Alberts toilet area more then once a week. I know some hamsters do get distressed at having their cage tidied and putting them in a play pen can be helpful as they can have some fun while their cage is being tidied.

Would you like to post a picture of Alberts cage so members can help?
Thank you for your reply. I've tried Albert in a play pen a few times but he doesn't like it. He prefers his carrier and normally has a little sleep. When he comes out for exercise he likes to run around on me and hubby on the sofa or bed. He doesn't like it if I'm not close by for him to run to for safety and a cuddle.
 
This will help you with cleaning tips.
Thank you. I'll have a read of that info.
 
He sounds very bonded to you which is lovely. What kind of cage does he have?
 
Albert is living in a Pets at Home Wire Hamster cage X Large. I know I need to upgrade to a even bigger cage soon.
 
If you want some cage suggestions you will find some on the home page.

Albert is gorgeous. It would be lovely if you started a diary for him under the dwarf hamster section.😀
 
If you want some cage suggestions you will find some on the home page.

Albert is gorgeous. It would be lovely if you started a diary for him under the dwarf hamster section.😀
I'm slowly having a look around this forum. There's so much info to get through. I've just checked on Albert and it looks like he's had a pee in his sand bath. Fingers crossed 🤞 It would be easier to clean.
 
That will be easier to clean. Does he have a multi chamber hide? Hamsters like to use one section to toilet.

Yes, there is so much great information on here. Please feel free to ask anything you like too.
 
Hello and welcome :) . Albert sounds like a real character! Guarding things so you can't clean his pee. As Rainbow said - it probably doesn't need cleaning out too often anyway - but some of that depends on how much substrate you have in the cage. The deeper the substrate, the less often it will need cleaning out and cause an issue. I'm looking forward to seeing more photos of Albert :giggle:

I also worry a bit about our Robo peeing underground and not knowing where it is but they tend to not sit in their own pee and will either push the smelly bit further away from them or move their burrow a bit further away. Some hamsters will even chuck the smelly substrate out of the burrow for you to take away! And replace it with other substrate from the cage.

Dwarf hamsters sometimes pee in various different places - unlike Syrians who will toilet in the same place all the time. So it can be hard to find where they're peeing unless you can smell it! So it can be a case of feeling around under the substrate until you find a damp patch to spot clean.

With cages (I have a cage too) you can only usually get about 6" max bedding in there anyway so yes it probably does need spot cleaning a bit more than if they had, say 10" of deep bedding. But you could easily go a week or more.

But I really wouldn't worry too much about it making him ill. It sounds a tricky situation if he is precious about his burrows - and hamsters usually are very precious about their nesting areas and their hoards. It's understandable, as burrows can collapse when we try spot cleaning, but it needs to be done at some point. What you could do is do the spot cleaning for the pee when he's out of the cage so it doesn't bother him too much. Some hamsters it's easier when they're in the cage so they can see what's being done and keep an eye on you. For other hamsters, they find that too stressful and it's better done when they're out of the cage.

The PAH XL cage is not a bad cage for a dwarf hamster, so no desperate rush to upgrade if he's happy in it at the moment.

The multiroom house idea Rainbow mentioned is a good one. People tend to find the hamster will use a litter tray in a multiroom house. It helps them have normal behaviours - an area to nest, an area to hoard and an area to pee. With burrows everthing gets mushed up together. Even our robo uses a litter tray in his labyrinth house! Mind you he also has another toilet under his house. So I still have to feel around under his house sometimes.

Trouble is the multiroom houses can be expensive. And tend to only fit inside larger cages. A shoebox house can be good as well.

I've found that if you give a hamster a house that's big enough and dark inside - they will have their nest, hoard and toilet area all inside the house - it mimics an underground burrow and so then they don't bother to have one. And it makes cleaning out their pee a whole lot easier! And they can still enjoy digging their way in and out of the house, going under it, rather than going through the door! A child's size shoe box with the base cut out and the lid kept as a lift-off roof is a good size for a dwarf hamster. You just cut a hole out for a door. The lift off roof means you can check inside easily and empty a litter tray easily. And it also makes another flat platform type surface for putting the odd thing on.

If you put a bendy bridge over the door it makes it dark inside, and provides a tunnel entrance - and they seem to like a tunnel entrance to a house. The main reason they burrow IMO is to be in the dark. And the bendy bridge doubles up as a ramp onto the flat roof. It might be worth a try!

I go with the large dark house option these days, as the hamster usually moves in and it makes my life easier too! If a house is a bit small or not dark inside they often won't nest in it.
 
That will be easier to clean. Does he have a multi chamber hide? Hamsters like to use one section to toilet.

Yes, there is so much great information on here. Please feel free to ask anything you like too.
Albert has a wooden house with a removable roof. I have a tunnel at the door to keep it dark. He doesn't sleep in the house though. He likes to dig down and make a nest.
 
Hello and welcome :) . Albert sounds like a real character! Guarding things so you can't clean his pee. As Rainbow said - it probably doesn't need cleaning out too often anyway - but some of that depends on how much substrate you have in the cage. The deeper the substrate, the less often it will need cleaning out and cause an issue. I'm looking forward to seeing more photos of Albert :giggle:

I also worry a bit about our Robo peeing underground and not knowing where it is but they tend to not sit in their own pee and will either push the smelly bit further away from them or move their burrow a bit further away. Some hamsters will even chuck the smelly substrate out of the burrow for you to take away! And replace it with other substrate from the cage.

Dwarf hamsters sometimes pee in various different places - unlike Syrians who will toilet in the same place all the time. So it can be hard to find where they're peeing unless you can smell it! So it can be a case of feeling around under the substrate until you find a damp patch to spot clean.

With cages (I have a cage too) you can only usually get about 6" max bedding in there anyway so yes it probably does need spot cleaning a bit more than if they had, say 10" of deep bedding. But you could easily go a week or more.

But I really wouldn't worry too much about it making him ill. It sounds a tricky situation if he is precious about his burrows - and hamsters usually are very precious about their nesting areas and their hoards. It's understandable, as burrows can collapse when we try spot cleaning, but it needs to be done at some point. What you could do is do the spot cleaning for the pee when he's out of the cage so it doesn't bother him too much. Some hamsters it's easier when they're in the cage so they can see what's being done and keep an eye on you. For other hamsters, they find that too stressful and it's better done when they're out of the cage.

The PAH XL cage is not a bad cage for a dwarf hamster, so no desperate rush to upgrade if he's happy in it at the moment.

The multiroom house idea Rainbow mentioned is a good one. People tend to find the hamster will use a litter tray in a multiroom house. It helps them have normal behaviours - an area to nest, an area to hoard and an area to pee. With burrows everthing gets mushed up together. Even our robo uses a litter tray in his labyrinth house! Mind you he also has another toilet under his house. So I still have to feel around under his house sometimes.

Trouble is the multiroom houses can be expensive. And tend to only fit inside larger cages. A shoebox house can be good as well.

I've found that if you give a hamster a house that's big enough and dark inside - they will have their nest, hoard and toilet area all inside the house - it mimics an underground burrow and so then they don't bother to have one. And it makes cleaning out their pee a whole lot easier! And they can still enjoy digging their way in and out of the house, going under it, rather than going through the door! A child's size shoe box with the base cut out and the lid kept as a lift-off roof is a good size for a dwarf hamster. You just cut a hole out for a door. The lift off roof means you can check inside easily and empty a litter tray easily. And it also makes another flat platform type surface for putting the odd thing on.

If you put a bendy bridge over the door it makes it dark inside, and provides a tunnel entrance - and they seem to like a tunnel entrance to a house. The main reason they burrow IMO is to be in the dark. And the bendy bridge doubles up as a ramp onto the flat roof. It might be worth a try!

I go with the large dark house option these days, as the hamster usually moves in and it makes my life easier too! If a house is a bit small or not dark inside they often won't nest in it.
Thank you for your reply and advice. Albert is very happy in his cage and has lots to keep him busy. I've got another question. I hope you don't mind. Albert came out to play earlier. He was having lots of fun running around. He likes cuddles too. Anyway he was running around and all of a sudden he stopped, went flat and stiff. I panicked and pick him up. Not sure if that was the right thing to do. I put him against my chest and cuddled, stroked and talked to him. He snuggle up for a few minutes and then started running around again. Is this normal? Is he ill? As I'm writing this he's doing normal hamster things back in his cage. But I'm worried about him. I know hamsters can be frightened easily but I don't know what frightened him. My last hamster was a female Syrian. She wasn't scared of anything and was a handful. Albert seems to be a delicate boy. My husband and son say I worry too much.
 
Yes they worry us a lot sometimes! When we had our first hamster I was a nervous wreck for the first few months lol!

So - nothing to worry about. They do this sometimes. It's like they get spooked by something. They have kind of ultrasonic hearing and sometimes hear things we don't hear. If you think about it, being prey animals they are alert to any kind of strange sound that might mean danger, so maybe freezing is a way to not look edible! I had a Syrian sit there looking rigid and stiff for a good 20 minutes once, and did what you did - picked him up for a cuddle and he came out of it.

He sounds like an adorable sensitive little thing.
 
Hello & welcome to the forum.
Albert looks & sounds like a gorgeous boy, I’ve had some male Russian hams who aren’t too keen on play pen time & prefer cuddles or just being close to & climbing on humans, it really is very sweet that he’s so happy with you.
You’ve had some great advice already so not much to add to that.
I’ve found most of my Russians will pee in the sand bath but it might depend how close it is to the nest, if it’s not nearby they don’t use it so much, if they have a large enough house I put a sand bath inside & they usually use that.
 
Yes they worry us a lot sometimes! When we had our first hamster I was a nervous wreck for the first few months lol!

So - nothing to worry about. They do this sometimes. It's like they get spooked by something. They have kind of ultrasonic hearing and sometimes hear things we don't hear. If you think about it, being prey animals they are alert to any kind of strange sound that might mean danger, so maybe freezing is a way to not look edible! I had a Syrian sit there looking rigid and stiff for a good 20 minutes once, and did what you did - picked him up for a cuddle and he came out of it.

He sounds like an adorable sensitive little thing.
Thank you for your reply. I didn't sleep very well last night. Was so worried about Albert. When I came down stairs this morning Albert came to the front of the cage to say hello. He's been busy messing up his cage and my husband said he heard him on is wheel through the night. I can't hear the wheel because my hearing isn't very good.
 
Aw im sorry you hardly slept. I do not know if this is something you may like to do but I have a camera to watch my hanster. This helps me stop worrying as I can always watch what he gets up to at night.
 
Hello & welcome to the forum.
Albert looks & sounds like a gorgeous boy, I’ve had some male Russian hams who aren’t too keen on play pen time & prefer cuddles or just being close to & climbing on humans, it really is very sweet that he’s so happy with you.
You’ve had some great advice already so not much to add to that.
I’ve found most of my Russians will pee in the sand bath but it might depend how close it is to the nest, if it’s not nearby they don’t use it so much, if they have a large enough house I put a sand bath inside & they usually use that.
Hello and thank you for your reply. It's so nice to be on this forum and have people like you give support and advice. Last night I notice some pee in his sand bath. Albert loves his sand bath.
 
Aw im sorry you hardly slept. I do not know if this is something you may like to do but I have a camera to watch my hanster. This helps me stop worrying as I can always watch what he gets up to at night.
I might look into that. My son says I should get a camera. If I go to the toilet during the night I go down stairs and check on Albert.
 
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