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Draco is now bar climbing :( I’m going to have to do something/upgrade his enclosure.
Climbing the bars isn't so bad. If you've been adding things to cage etc he is maybe just feeling a bit unsettled at the moment and needs time to settle in. They can get a bit frazzled by changes. You can maybe distract him out of it by hiding treats in different parts of the cage for him to find. He's still quite new and it can take them a couple of weeks after any changes, to fully settle into a routine. If the Niteangel is bigger and it's a bargain it might be worth it, but I wouldn't move him to a new cage just yet or it could frazzle him even more. Maybe when he's had chance to settle in and get into a routine you could think about upgrading him. Also sometimes they are just curious to see if they can get out of the top!
 
Also Elusive's tip about adding a shelf is a good one. They sometimes don't like too much open space above them and they do like a shelf - it's somwhere to sit under to have a wash and somewhere else to go. It could be tricky fitting one in with the large wheel, but maybe a corner shelf?

Like this maybe? If it was over the house, then a bridge or ramp on top of the house roof could lead up to it. If it was opposite the wheel then you'd need some way for him to get up there. I sometimes use a large cork tunnel pushed under a shelf so it makes a ramp up to the shelf as well as a tunnel and that would help fill up some of the floorspace as well :)

 
Although I think that cage comes with a shelf and ladder doesn't it?
 
I think Draco might like it as he's younger and more active, and it's somewhere else to go :) It's a good place to put heavier items as well like the food bowl or ceramic hides etc. They often like sitting under a shelf for a wash.

I think with the shelf, ladder, house and wheel you won't be wanting really large floor toys as well. Things like coconut hides are popular. (ie a coconut with a hole in) or just a tube/tunnel. Pringles tubes make good tubes (cleaned out of course). With the coconut hides, you need to check the entrance hole is big enough - needs to be at least 6cm really.

If you do make adjustments to his cage like that - it might be an idea to have him out of the cage somewhere secure, while you do them, so it doesn't stress him too much. Also, after any cage changes, I add lots of treats and treat parcels and hide them places to distract them from all the change.

My Syrians have always loved the ceramic hideout on the shelf. Some sit in it for a wash, others just use it as a place to put special treats :-) Again with ceramic hides you need to check the entrance is big enough (and the hide is big enough!) - a lot of them are a bit small for Syrians.
 
My grandpa and I are going to make Draco a bin cage since he keeps climbing the bars of the Prevue 528 nonstop!
 
Did you manage to add the extra items that members suggested? Often a new hamster takes time to adjust to their new home so Draco may just need a little more time.

We have a thread on here called cardboard creations. Perhaps you could make one of those for Draco? Hamsters enjoy boredom breakers. 🙂
 
My grandpa and I are going to make Draco a bin cage since he keeps climbing the bars of the Prevue 528 nonstop!
Can you get a plastic box at least as big as the Prevue?
A bin cage needs a meshed lid and ideally a meshed window as well so quite a bit of diy involved.
 
Also, when hamsters climb the bars a lot and want out, usually something isn't quite right for them.
Some want out of cage time or they try to tell us something like their wheel is stuck or their water bottle isn't working.
Not enough enrichment or things to do, places to go or feeling exposed may lead to this kind of behaviour as well.
Personally, i would address this first and add enrichment as suggested but it is down to you of course.
A bin cage would stop him from climbing bars but may not necessarily resolve the issue.
 
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Personally I would also give it a little more time for him to settle in. Although I can understand it can be worrying if he's doing this, but he's unlikely to hurt himself as you have lots of lovely thick substrate in there for him to land on and it's not that far to fall from the roof to the top of his house.

It sounds like he might be feeling a bit stressed, temporarily and wanting to see if he can get out - which they sometimes do when they feel a bit stressed - sometimes with changes to the cage, but they can be distracted out of it. A bit of out of cage time and some scatter feeding maybe.

I am just wondering also if he can still smell the scent of a previous hamster although I'm sure you c;leaned the cage out between them. But sometimes it can linger on the bar area. I had a situation like that once, where the hamster and cage had been left at a pet sitters where there were other hamsters and he was very stressed on his return for about two weeks - it's not nice to see., In the end it occurred to me his cage may smell of the other place or other hamsters so I cleaned the cage including wiping the bars down inside and out - either soapy water or a half and half white vinegar and water. Normally it's best to avoid a full cage clean as that can cause stress in itself - but on this occasion it did the trick, because it removed a scent that wasn't the hamster's scent. It helps to save the nest and replace it though, as that has their own scent. Has he built a nest yet? It needs a big pile of toilet paper strips in the cage, then they can build a nest. He has a lovely house in there to build a cosy nest.

There are a few other things you could try first - putting some treats in his house to tempt him in there, and scattering a bit of his food in the cage at feeding time (as well as in his bowl). He's still only a baby really and they can be very active and curious and see if they can escape sometimes. Do you have a playpen or "fenced off" area of a room he can have some out of cage time and taming with you?

Is he actually chewing the bars as well? That noise can drive people crazy! And it's not good for their teeth. You can weave cardboard round the bars in the area he's doing it if that's the case. That can distract them and give them something else to chew!

It could be a combination of a few things but he is maybe a bit stressed by something. It can be better to make any changes to the cage while they're out of the cage in a secure place (like a pet carrier) and get it all sorted and then pop them back and let them settle in again for a few days.

Our current Syrian is very active and he climbed the bars a bit at first but he soon settled down and stopped doing it. Food is always a distraction! Does he have a chew stick? They love the mini whimzee dog chews. The toothbrush ones you can stick sunflower seeds in the bristles.

I can understand if you want to make a bin cage, if it doesn't settle down - but it would need to be at least as big, or bigger than the current cage or he could still have stress. It also still needs a platform in really.

Hope things are settling down!
 
One other thought - one thing that can cause them stress is cleaning out regularly. With a large cage like this, and lots of substrate, it isn't necessary to do a clean out, at least for the first two weeks while they're settling in, and then just spot cleaning the pee area - you can do that for quite some time before needing to do a bigger clean out. Even then it's best to not clean everything at the same time - so something always have the hamster's scent. Eg if you change the substrate, keep some of the old clean substrate back and spread it on top so it smells familiar, and clean the wheel a different week and any other cage items that need a clean, a different week again. It's only their pee that is unhygienic. And Syrians tend to only pee in one place.
 
thanks for all the tips!! I actually went out and found a 50 gallon bin, (200 quart bin) that is as big (if not a little bigger) then the prevue 528. My grandpa actually did all the DIY for me. He meshed the lid. I’m not moving Draco over for a while, i’m just waiting to see if he settles down or not.
 
It's always good to have a spare bin anyway! I hope he does settle down. I think the front door on that cage is really good especially for interaction with the hamster when he's settled in.
 
I’ve put Draco in his new bin cage.
He would not stop biting the bars of the cage, and he got a cut on his nose.
 
Oh dear - he was bar chewing as well as climbing the bars then. How has he settled into the bin cage?
 
You could always sell the cage to recoup some of the cost.
 
Oh dear - he was bar chewing as well as climbing the bars then. How has he settled into the bin cage?
he’s loving it! he’s asleep right now. I put him in it yesterday, and he was on his wheel all night.
 
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